45-70 paper patch bullet mold

Mould blocks are made from durabar 654512 extruded fine grain ductile iron. Paper patched bullets were used in some early cartridges, though i dont. Hunting with paper patch bullets in sharps 45 120 aka 45 110 by tom ball. These are three paper patch using the creedmoor nose. This is a discussion on paper patching 4570 within the lever action forums, part of the gun forum category. Paper patched observations at the 2008 american creedmoor cup. Paul mathews has a whole book on it that i read long ago. One is straight sided and the other two are two dimensional.

My plan b would be to have someone with a working 4jaw chuck on their lathe dont ask. I prefer to seat my ppbs right on the lands or even to a slight crush fit, but feel free to experiment. Lube bullets will work in those chambers of course, but there are a few customonly chamber designs that will not shoot, or even chamber, a groove diameter lubed bullet. My first attempt at paper patching 45 70 cast lead bullets and i met with a slight issue. What diameter bullet would you recommend for use in my shiloh 4570 for paper patching.

The paper is cut to overhang the back and is then twisted closed. Bullet size and paper size to add up to the right diameter. The paper patch is in contact with the barrel along most of its overall length and is therefore more likely to be cut cleanly, and importantly separate cleanly immediately on leaving the barrel. Mould blocks are made from durabar 65 45 12 extruded fine grain ductile iron. Mold lubing to extend the life and operation of your mold, make sure to lube it using beeswax or an antiseize lubricant, as recommended in the mold instructions. Most other nose shapes just punch on through, even on larger animals. This means you need to carefully measure the bore of your rifle and then have a custom mold made by one of the many mold makers. For the record, this is not my video or gun or cartridge load. For pp, 1st get your paper, then the bullet mould to make sure you are arriving at the correct diameter.

The lyman cast bullet handbook makes some mention of it, as i recall, but i dont think it had a lot of information. Paper patched bullets ppb are probably the most controversial of all lead bullet styles. As new designs are ordered, they are numbered and added here. Some a bit better than others, but most factory chambered rifles can shoot paper patches quite well. While not experienced with paper patching, i have looked at how others. Does anybody know anything about paper patched bullets for 4570. This catalog is a record of molds ive made, and posted for reference. Lee 6 cavity commercial mould handles permanent link to product page.

Many people prefer it to the smooth ogive type of bullet because the shoulder helps hold the paper patch from sliding back, if you overlap the edge slightly and use your thumbnail to crimp the edge of the paper over the shoulder. I have cast 400 and 500 grain bullets and will be using vellum to patch the bullets. Ive also had some success at yds with the lyman 485 gr bullet. Custom quality cast bullet molds by buffalo arms co.

Best accuracy is usually accomplished with a much closer fit, tailored to a particular firearm. We are currently delivering in less than 4 weeks from the time we receive your payment. The idea in pping is to have the patch leave the bullet on exit from the muzzle, or, stay on the bullet all the way to the target. Distance from the crimp groove to the nose of the bullet. Many cbe designs can be made into single, double or triple cavity bullet moulds. I just ordered a perdesoli 1874 sharps snipe rifle. I can safely patch a cast bullet, but i would have some concerns of loosing a patch in the barrel of of a copper jacketed bullet.

Regular paper especially for patching can be gotten from buffalo arms co. Paper patching opens a whole new world in performance of cast bullets. Paper patched bullet design software is available from corbin, as well as software that calculates multiple density, multipart bullet weights and volumes, calculates bullet air resistance and bc, and helps you determine the bullet diameter for a given rifling depth and paper thickness. It was up to the individual to acquire a mold close to the bore, and supplement the diameter to the bore. Mar 06, 2014 we describe another method to economically and simply custom fit the bullet to your rifle bore to make your military surplus rifle shoot accurately.

The rifle ill be working with is a beautiful winchester 1885 bpcr with a badger barrel in 4570. Bullet diameters can be customized to fit your barrel when ordering, specify in comments box at the checkout. The patch lube has but one purpose to prevent tearing the patch when the bullet is seated. This is my go to boolit in my browning 1885 4570 in black powder but now im experimenting with paper patching and using unique as a powder charge.

We also have some designs that create hollow point or hollow base lead bullets or are used for paper patch or powder coating. Is paper patching real for making bullets untraceable. This is my go to boolit in my browning 1885 4570 in black powder but now im experimenting with paper patching and using unique as a. If the patched bullet will fit the throat this step isnt necessary as seating the bullet in the case will remove the extra lube. Please note that this design is a tapered bullet design. There is no major disadvantage to the shouldered or swc style of bullet for short to medium range 100300 yards. Three hardened dowel pins provide positive alignment in both vertical and horizontal planes.

My 21year old son eric and i drew cow elk tags as our second choice in our favorite hunt unit in the bighorn basin of wyoming. You can clearly see the paper patch leaves the barrel intact around the bullet at 00. Paper patched or lubricated lead bullets can be swaged in two basic styles, the swc. I also weigh every cast bullet that i patch and this should also be a good indicator that a larger bubble is inside a bullet and disregard if not within specs. View bullet mold preparation video for proper mold lubrication and smoking.

Hunting with paper patch bullets in sharps 45120 aka 45. From what ive written about paper you can see its imperative to know the paper thickness before determining your bullet mould diam. Whitworth block for paper patched bullets show all the details. This weekend im going to try the paper patch version. Thus, for a 4570 we could use a 350grain singlediameter revolver bullet with a 0.

Hunting with paper patch bullets in sharps 45 120 aka 45 110. Lube grooved bullet on left paper patched without the paper on the right one of the issues involved with paper patching is the bullet needs to fit the bore nearly perfectly for best results. The diameter of the cast slick and the thickness of the patching paper are at least a bit. Assra forum paper patched bullets smooth or grooved.

Cast bullet engineering cast bullet moulds hand cast. For factory bullets, the molycoated bear creek bullets are pretty darn good and you can actually shoot them without lube at moderate black powder velocities. Cast bullet engineering specialises in hand crafted molds for the hobby caster and are used with standard rcbs, lee commercial or kal handles. Mar 22, 2015 paper patch bullet d reamer and shop made casting mold. My 45 cal paper patch bullets years ago used a custom mold and paper just thick enough to to. Then use egg whites as a binding glue to seal the tail end of the paper patch to the bullet. You can also watch as the paper patch comes off the bullet between the muzzle at 00. Pretty much any chamber will shoot paper patched bullets. These are best for hunting as they do flatten out some.

However, i do load and shoot black powder bp charged paper patched bullets. If it is not in stock please call us to order as we do not stock all of our molds. Several folks are pretty happy with the 500 gr paper patch bullet from the buffalo arms molds. Harrison was first with reliable technique and data for the modern patch paper patch bullet. Handgun bullet molds 80 rifle bullet molds 28 black powder molds. This expanding catalog contains designs that are already on file. This is a discussion on paper patching 45 70 within the lever action forums, part of the gun forum category. I also wipe my own loaded cartridges with a paper towel before boxing, to prevent dust and dirt from accumulating on the bullet. Everything seemed to work great except i think i have the patch riding too high up on the bullet nose on the lee 457340 395 gr 2 cavity mold. Harrisons articles on modern paper patch bullets using smokeless powder in bottleneck cases. You would use the skinnier bullet for the rapid fire of the herd shots and the thicker bullet in a regular silhouette shoot when you can run a bore pig and dry patch down the bore.

We rely on a quality products, delivery and value for our customers. As seasoned bpcrs competitors and as a 3 time second overall and a two time national champion who is not competing anymore, we can and will give you any advice you want on designing your custom bullet mould. For a description of what a top punch is, please see our faq page. Ranch wrotecoloni like the lyman postell, but im particularly fond of the rcbs 82084 bullet, its a 530 gr creedmore styled bullet that carries more lube than the postell. I will say that casting your own will give you the best results using a custom mould. At ben avery aviator was shooting a 4570 with a 540 grain bullet, bp. You can use any alloy you want for shooting paper patch bullets. There is a direct relationship between the bullet casting alloy, the final diameter of the cast slick bullet, the thickness of the patching paper, and how the paper is wrapped on the bullet. My first attempt at paper patching 4570 cast lead bullets and i met with a slight issue. In the early days, the bullet round ball mold quite often fit the bore of the rifle rather poorly. I am patching for a 4570 and working up a hb lee bullet, 405gr and the cast. He told me that in his younger days they would take 255 grain lead flat point bullets for the 45 colt pistol and paper patch them to use in the 4570 because one of the guys had a bullet mold for them and between them the only other mold they had available was for a 500 grain. Corbin paper patch and blackpowder bullet swagingreloading.

This past week, a coterie of hardy souls attended the american creedmoor cup acc at the ben avery range, 23 miles north of the i17 i10 interchange located in phoenix, az. All lee mold blocks are made from aluminum because of the exceptional molding qualities. Hollow base molds these are available in single cavity only. Corbin paper patchblackpower bullet tools corbin swaging. Mass produced bullet molds are designed with very conservative, minimal dimensions north of the crimp groove, so that. Double cavity molds all molds for pistol calibers are double cavity to speed casting. Paper patch bullet d reamer and shop made casting mold. I have been able to use all of my molds for making ppb. You may choose from these designs, use one of these as a basis and specify modifications, or submit a completely custom drawing either electronically or by regular mail. Youll only need enough lube to cover the paper patch. Bullet diameter for 4570 paper patched cartridge shiloh. A good starter bullet is the accurate molds 45480p in. Mass produced bullet molds are designed with very conservative, minimal dimensions north of the crimp groove, so that they will chamber in the great variety of firearms out there.

Most bullets from lee molds can be used as cast without sizing. You will need no other lube when using ppbs and smokeless powder. The 45lcs heavier bullets would be good to patch up to be shot in a 45 70 or even in a 45lc. The practical paper patch bullet is another book of his and it was.

Hunting with paper patch bullets in sharps 45120 aka 45110. Sprue plate, hardware for attaching to lee or comparable handles. He told me that in his younger days they would take 255 grain lead flat point bullets for the 45 colt pistol and paper patch them to use in the 4570 because one of the guys had a bullet mold for them and between them the only other mold they had. I dont presently shoot 4570 but have recently gotten involved with the 50 alaskan cartridge.

If you dont see your desired mold, check out our custom services page. These molds are designed to fit lee six cavity handles. Paperpatched observations from the 2008 american creedmoor cup. So, what loads do yall use for bp and pyrodex with a paper patch bullet. Hunting with paper patch bullets in sharps 45120 aka 45110 by tom ball. The 360grainer was my bullet of choice for cowboy action side matches with my pedersoli 4570. Nov 25, 2007 ranch wrotecoloni like the lyman postell, but im particularly fond of the rcbs 82084 bullet, its a 530 gr creedmore styled bullet that carries more lube than the postell. Cast bullet engineering cast bullet moulds hand cast lead. Custom quality cast bullet molds for sale buffalo arms. Being an old paper patcher, in the traditional way, i wonder about lubing the bullet and then patching it. I sent him a 500gr spitzer mold and he would custom mold bullets for me. Cast bullet moulds hand cast lead projectiles with brass molds.

The paper patch on a smooth bullet is a good way of getting rid of any lead in the barrel if you have been firing gg bullets. His articles and little shorts in the question and answers column form the basis of all modern writing on the paper patch. Bullet molds for black powder and smokeless powder firearms. The mold cavities are cnc machined for unmatched roundness and size control. So the paper patched bullet had something of a reputation for greater accuracy. If you use my paper patch lube, make sure that it is as soft as butter when you apply it. As a ammunition manufacture, we load over 400 calibers. A bit over is not too bad, you can always size the patched bullet. Pedersoli offers professional bullet moulds accessories for sale. We have made many winning bullet designs and want to keep our business strong by helping you. The only other bullets i can recommend are the swaged bullets that buffalo arms is making, they are really nice and.